Comments on: Notes from the Adobe keynote at FITC http://aralbalkan.com/922 Passionate geekisms. Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:23:24 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: aral http://aralbalkan.com/922/comment-page-1#comment-25121 aral Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:03:27 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/922#comment-25121 Hi Stefan: If you do actually need FMS to run this, I found the sales pitch to be especially misleading because he kept mentioning "free, free, free!" FMS costs $4,500 in the US and $7,844.51 in the UK (we pay $3, 444.51 more for the privilege of owning it in the UK, Adobe be blessed). Pretty far from free, if you ask me. Wasn't impressed at all. Hi Stefan:

If you do actually need FMS to run this, I found the sales pitch to be especially misleading because he kept mentioning “free, free, free!” FMS costs $4,500 in the US and $7,844.51 in the UK (we pay $3, 444.51 more for the privilege of owning it in the UK, Adobe be blessed). Pretty far from free, if you ask me.

Wasn’t impressed at all.

]]> By: paddy http://aralbalkan.com/922/comment-page-1#comment-24485 paddy Tue, 24 Apr 2007 08:32:08 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/922#comment-24485 I don't think anyone’s mentioned this but in the LFPUG Mike Downey mentioned something that could have got lost in all the Q's and A's flying around. 1: He says Adobe think they haave figured out a way to offer graphic card support. This could mean serious speed improvements. It wasn't said which version of flash would have this as it is still early stages but it's promising to hear Adobe think they have a solution. all you 3D guys can start licking your lips. p;) I don’t think anyone’s mentioned this but in the LFPUG Mike Downey mentioned something that could have got lost in all the Q’s and A’s flying around.

1: He says Adobe think they haave figured out a way to offer graphic card support. This could mean serious speed improvements. It wasn’t said which version of flash would have this as it is still early stages but it’s promising to hear Adobe think they have a solution. all you 3D guys can start licking your lips.

p;)

]]> By: Stefan Richter http://aralbalkan.com/922/comment-page-1#comment-24267 Stefan Richter Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:41:23 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/922#comment-24267 Hi Aral, To clarify on FMS and the video encoder: the new, freely available Adobe Flash Media Encoder does not 'convert' your video files to FLV, instead it allows anyone (on Windows atm) to broadcast *live* video in VP6 quality (VP6 being the better quality video codec introduced in Flash 8). Live video used to suck in Flash, you had to utilize a SWF (and encode using the lower quality Spark codec) to broadcast live. This has now changed and work on the Flash Media Encoder is ongoing (did I mention it is free?). Yes, you do need FMS (or access to a CDN) to make use of it. Watch out for more and more live video applications popping up this year, both browser based community broadcasting as well as higher quality video using Flash Media Encoder. More info on FME here: http://streamingmedia.com/article.asp?id=9519 Hi Aral,
To clarify on FMS and the video encoder: the new, freely available Adobe Flash Media Encoder does not ‘convert’ your video files to FLV, instead it allows anyone (on Windows atm) to broadcast *live* video in VP6 quality (VP6 being the better quality video codec introduced in Flash 8).
Live video used to suck in Flash, you had to utilize a SWF (and encode using the lower quality Spark codec) to broadcast live. This has now changed and work on the Flash Media Encoder is ongoing (did I mention it is free?). Yes, you do need FMS (or access to a CDN) to make use of it.
Watch out for more and more live video applications popping up this year, both browser based community broadcasting as well as higher quality video using Flash Media Encoder.

More info on FME here:
http://streamingmedia.com/article.asp?id=9519

]]> By: tim http://aralbalkan.com/922/comment-page-1#comment-24238 tim Mon, 23 Apr 2007 11:59:58 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/922#comment-24238 "I can't find this app online -- I must've gotten the name wrong. Anyone know the actual name?" Hey Aral, wasn't it "sliderocket"? -tim. “I can’t find this app online — I must’ve gotten the name wrong. Anyone know the actual name?”

Hey Aral, wasn’t it “sliderocket”?

-tim.

]]> By: Navinder Biln http://aralbalkan.com/922/comment-page-1#comment-24135 Navinder Biln Mon, 23 Apr 2007 02:45:08 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/922#comment-24135 Great notes Aral. I was in attendance at your panel discussion and found it very insightful. I agree with several of your points, particular those of AS1.0 (prototype based OO) and your thought on using Flex. Grant had some good things to say as well. The keynote was good, and well done on the notes for it ... although, and this is not a knock on the Mike Downey and the other presenters, it was very disappointing that the organizers couldn't get the "net" working. Happens year in and year out, you'd think they would have worked this out well in advance. I was especially looking forward to demo of the Apollo application featuring eBay, but alas ... Looking forward to the next few days. Great notes Aral.

I was in attendance at your panel discussion and found it very insightful. I agree with several of your points, particular those of AS1.0 (prototype based OO) and your thought on using Flex. Grant had some good things to say as well.

The keynote was good, and well done on the notes for it … although, and this is not a knock on the Mike Downey and the other presenters, it was very disappointing that the organizers couldn’t get the “net” working. Happens year in and year out, you’d think they would have worked this out well in advance.

I was especially looking forward to demo of the Apollo application featuring eBay, but alas …

Looking forward to the next few days.

]]> By: Chad http://aralbalkan.com/922/comment-page-1#comment-24119 Chad Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:46:09 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/922#comment-24119 Thanks for this post. Very informative indeed! Thanks for this post. Very informative indeed!

]]> By: Simon Barber http://aralbalkan.com/922/comment-page-1#comment-24059 Simon Barber Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:41:17 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/922#comment-24059 Hi Aral, The RIA that Ted showcased is called SlideRocket at http://www.sliderocket.com/. That amount of typing you did you are allowed to make mistakes :) Hi Aral,

The RIA that Ted showcased is called SlideRocket at http://www.sliderocket.com/. That amount of typing you did you are allowed to make mistakes :)

]]> By: Savvas Malamas http://aralbalkan.com/922/comment-page-1#comment-24055 Savvas Malamas Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:07:59 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/922#comment-24055 Oh..Thanks Aral! Nice post.. You should be a spy!! Mmm..no i'm wrong..I prefer you flashy. ;) Oh..Thanks Aral!
Nice post..
You should be a spy!!
Mmm..no i’m wrong..I prefer you flashy.
;)

]]> By: John Dowdell http://aralbalkan.com/922/comment-page-1#comment-24044 John Dowdell Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:39:13 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/922#comment-24044 Aral, thanks for the reporting. Chris, you're right, particular jobs should be decided by particular audiences... more context on stats here: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/04/9_months_17_of.cfm jd/adobe Aral, thanks for the reporting.

Chris, you’re right, particular jobs should be decided by particular audiences… more context on stats here:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2007/04/9_months_17_of.cfm

jd/adobe

]]> By: Chris Korhonen http://aralbalkan.com/922/comment-page-1#comment-24042 Chris Korhonen Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:33:38 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/922#comment-24042 Good news on the Flash 9 player penetration, though I do wonder how accurate Adobe's reporting is - it certainly doesn't reflect the stats we see on our domains (a large, global financial services provider). Flash 8 still seems to be king, with 7 and 9 approaching it in the stats. I know things like YouTube etc. are pushing player adoption for home users, but what about in corporate environments where things are a bit more locked down - with either Flash 7 or 8, and which won't see a Windows Vista rollout for a while so no chance of getting the Flash 9 player as a consequence of that. I'd love to dump AS2.0 for good and move on to AS3.0 and all the goodies which Flash 9 brings, but I don't see that as a realistic prospect till much later in the year (or next year). The only exception being, if you have a compelling app which is worth getting users to upgrade. Good news on the Flash 9 player penetration, though I do wonder how accurate Adobe’s reporting is – it certainly doesn’t reflect the stats we see on our domains (a large, global financial services provider). Flash 8 still seems to be king, with 7 and 9 approaching it in the stats.

I know things like YouTube etc. are pushing player adoption for home users, but what about in corporate environments where things are a bit more locked down – with either Flash 7 or 8, and which won’t see a Windows Vista rollout for a while so no chance of getting the Flash 9 player as a consequence of that.

I’d love to dump AS2.0 for good and move on to AS3.0 and all the goodies which Flash 9 brings, but I don’t see that as a realistic prospect till much later in the year (or next year). The only exception being, if you have a compelling app which is worth getting users to upgrade.

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