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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s wrong with Adobe Max? A speaker&#8217;s perspective.</title>
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		<title>By: WASEEM JHONERBEEKAY</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/658/comment-page-1#comment-260736</link>
		<dc:creator>WASEEM JHONERBEEKAY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 14:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS IS VERY GOOD FOR MY POINT OF VIEW.WE CAN CHANGE THE WORLD FROM THIS SOFTWARE.IWANNA HUG TO SFTWARE ENGINEER FOR MAKING THIS GOOD THIS.THANX VERY MUCH                                               WASEEM KAPRA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS IS VERY GOOD FOR MY POINT OF VIEW.WE CAN CHANGE THE WORLD FROM THIS SOFTWARE.IWANNA HUG TO SFTWARE ENGINEER FOR MAKING THIS GOOD THIS.THANX VERY MUCH                                               WASEEM KAPRA</p>
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		<title>By: Seb Lee-Delisle &#187; Blog Archive &#187; New Adobe MAX controversy</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/658/comment-page-1#comment-256289</link>
		<dc:creator>Seb Lee-Delisle &#187; Blog Archive &#187; New Adobe MAX controversy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s about that time of year where a few of us Flash speakers get together and have a good old whinge about Adobe&#8217;s speaker expense policy. In fact it&#8217;s become somewhat of an annual tradition. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#8217;s about that time of year where a few of us Flash speakers get together and have a good old whinge about Adobe&#8217;s speaker expense policy. In fact it&#8217;s become somewhat of an annual tradition. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Kerman</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/658/comment-page-1#comment-180567</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Kerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;ve been tiny-urled: http://www.tinyturl.com/adobe-bs  from this video: http://www.tinyurl.com/frugal-businessman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;ve been tiny-urled: <a href="http://www.tinyturl.com/adobe-bs" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinyturl.com/adobe-bs</a>  from this video: <a href="http://www.tinyurl.com/frugal-businessman" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinyurl.com/frugal-businessman</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wil Ortiz</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/658/comment-page-1#comment-159500</link>
		<dc:creator>Wil Ortiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been teaching in the bay area for the past 8 years and when Adobe asked me to speak at Adobe MAX 2008 I was honored, until I found that they needed me to have a corporate sponsor with $70,000 to speak for 60 minutes. My problem with this, 1.) 60 minutes is a good starting point but should be left open for more classroom communication.  2.) My Speaking would give insight to some key aspects of development in FLEX, ASP.net, LAMP Solutions as well as FLASH Video and Animation but what is there as a benefit to everyone who has to pay adobe to be there for such a little bit of time and take it all in.  The information doesn&#039;t even come from Adobe, we should have more user groups like our old MMUSR Group (MM = macromedia, remember guys?).  I decided to meet with my clients, students and fellow instructors in my own time, it would be cheaper and far more economical with greater advancement for us, rather then adobe.  I just feel for those who do not live in San Francisco with as many contacts and resources in the city as me to lean on, no wonder our economy is failing. To learn more about me and my classes that take the training to you, visit ICAMD.org; International Concepts in Animation and Mulitmedia Design.
-editor of ICAMD.org [editor @ icamd.org]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been teaching in the bay area for the past 8 years and when Adobe asked me to speak at Adobe MAX 2008 I was honored, until I found that they needed me to have a corporate sponsor with $70,000 to speak for 60 minutes. My problem with this, 1.) 60 minutes is a good starting point but should be left open for more classroom communication.  2.) My Speaking would give insight to some key aspects of development in FLEX, ASP.net, LAMP Solutions as well as FLASH Video and Animation but what is there as a benefit to everyone who has to pay adobe to be there for such a little bit of time and take it all in.  The information doesn&#8217;t even come from Adobe, we should have more user groups like our old MMUSR Group (MM = macromedia, remember guys?).  I decided to meet with my clients, students and fellow instructors in my own time, it would be cheaper and far more economical with greater advancement for us, rather then adobe.  I just feel for those who do not live in San Francisco with as many contacts and resources in the city as me to lean on, no wonder our economy is failing. To learn more about me and my classes that take the training to you, visit ICAMD.org; International Concepts in Animation and Mulitmedia Design.<br />
-editor of ICAMD.org [editor @ icamd.org]</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m speaking at MAX? WTF? at Aral Balkan</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/658/comment-page-1#comment-61029</link>
		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m speaking at MAX? WTF? at Aral Balkan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yes, it&#8217;s true, I&#8217;m speaking at MAX 2007 this year. But why, after being so vocally against their policies in the past? Simple. Because Adobe listened and they&#8217;re making an effort to change, starting with the MAX conferences this year. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yes, it&#8217;s true, I&#8217;m speaking at MAX 2007 this year. But why, after being so vocally against their policies in the past? Simple. Because Adobe listened and they&#8217;re making an effort to change, starting with the MAX conferences this year. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/658/comment-page-1#comment-6535</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought flash forward was bad (they don&#039;t give me much when I go). Thats completely unacceptable. I hate the feeling of being asked to speak so that they can make money yet being told they wont pay us for our time. I think its total exploitation and should be stopped. We are not made of money and always give charity so Adobe/etc can fill their pockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought flash forward was bad (they don&#8217;t give me much when I go). Thats completely unacceptable. I hate the feeling of being asked to speak so that they can make money yet being told they wont pay us for our time. I think its total exploitation and should be stopped. We are not made of money and always give charity so Adobe/etc can fill their pockets.</p>
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		<title>By: MAX 2006 To Break Attendance Records at Aral Balkan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAX 2006 To Break Attendance Records at Aral Balkan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was delighted to hear on Ben Forta&#8217;s blog that Adobe&#8217;s main conference, MAX 2006, will be breaking attendance records this year with more than 3,000 people attending. Hopefully, this will mean that next year, they&#8217;ll be able to afford to pay speaker&#8217;s expenses! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I was delighted to hear on Ben Forta&#8217;s blog that Adobe&#8217;s main conference, MAX 2006, will be breaking attendance records this year with more than 3,000 people attending. Hopefully, this will mean that next year, they&#8217;ll be able to afford to pay speaker&#8217;s expenses! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Kerman</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/658/comment-page-1#comment-1620</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Kerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 00:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just thought of something else while browsing the sessions scheduled for MAX.  It seems like the list of speakers is all but hidden from the website.  Maybe it&#039;s not intentional, but as a consumer trying to figure out who all is speaking--for example, I wanted to see which session Jesse is doing--I found it impossible to find out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just thought of something else while browsing the sessions scheduled for MAX.  It seems like the list of speakers is all but hidden from the website.  Maybe it&#8217;s not intentional, but as a consumer trying to figure out who all is speaking&#8211;for example, I wanted to see which session Jesse is doing&#8211;I found it impossible to find out.</p>
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		<title>By: Blaine</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/658/comment-page-1#comment-1460</link>
		<dc:creator>Blaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Now… I personally won’t take it as far as to not attend the conference because of their bad policies...&quot;

Phillip, thank you for your point of view.

As one of the humble students who looks to the experts for the content of these engagements.  I have to feel like, regardless of cause, the developers [me] will lose the most in a boycott.

Serge mentioned earlier that, &quot;There will always be people who are willing to speak at such events at no costs for the host&quot;.  W/o having all speakers at every level of their careers in terms of street value, boycotting the event...  Speakers union anyone ? :)

Where are the speakers banding together to host smaller speaking events during the week, showing that a hungry developer community needs more?  Ala carte. (CF_Undergroud-style).

I would suppose this discussion wouldn&#039;t have been nearly so long if MAX wasn&#039;t an attractive venue and a cf community standard event.  That being said, changing within the system and creating parallel events or other creative ways of exposing the flaws in the event planning shortcomings (and covering costs to prove it) might go a long way to make Adobe listen.

(and I echo prior comments on how ludicrous it is for this event to be in the red...priorities?)

Many of us will be there all week and wouldn&#039;t have a hard time getting our own corporations to pay per-head admission to smaller more targeted events while we are there.  Hell, the alternative spending it at the tables in our free time anyway.  And there&#039;s plenty of time for us to schedule a slot away from that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now… I personally won’t take it as far as to not attend the conference because of their bad policies&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Phillip, thank you for your point of view.</p>
<p>As one of the humble students who looks to the experts for the content of these engagements.  I have to feel like, regardless of cause, the developers [me] will lose the most in a boycott.</p>
<p>Serge mentioned earlier that, &#8220;There will always be people who are willing to speak at such events at no costs for the host&#8221;.  W/o having all speakers at every level of their careers in terms of street value, boycotting the event&#8230;  Speakers union anyone ? :)</p>
<p>Where are the speakers banding together to host smaller speaking events during the week, showing that a hungry developer community needs more?  Ala carte. (CF_Undergroud-style).</p>
<p>I would suppose this discussion wouldn&#8217;t have been nearly so long if MAX wasn&#8217;t an attractive venue and a cf community standard event.  That being said, changing within the system and creating parallel events or other creative ways of exposing the flaws in the event planning shortcomings (and covering costs to prove it) might go a long way to make Adobe listen.</p>
<p>(and I echo prior comments on how ludicrous it is for this event to be in the red&#8230;priorities?)</p>
<p>Many of us will be there all week and wouldn&#8217;t have a hard time getting our own corporations to pay per-head admission to smaller more targeted events while we are there.  Hell, the alternative spending it at the tables in our free time anyway.  And there&#8217;s plenty of time for us to schedule a slot away from that!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. That would be really cool. I definitely hope it&#039;ll be more than drinks, food and a few DJ&#039;s spinning some tunes. I kind of wish they would tell you what&#039;s happening since its a big chunk of cash for your spouse...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. That would be really cool. I definitely hope it&#8217;ll be more than drinks, food and a few DJ&#8217;s spinning some tunes. I kind of wish they would tell you what&#8217;s happening since its a big chunk of cash for your spouse&#8230;</p>
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