Comments on: Initial thoughts on AS2Lib http://aralbalkan.com/58 Passionate geekisms. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:52:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Pondus http://aralbalkan.com/58/comment-page-1#comment-100262 Pondus Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:40:37 +0000 #comment-100262 I have worked extensively with both AS3 and AS2 and every framework I could get my hands on. as2lib is the best tool I've seen so far... by far. But my judgement is perhaps clouded by the fact that my main has been C++, Java, Ruby etc, not Flash until recently. So with all due respect, it seems that Aral's take on as2lib represents a misunderstanding of the core problems as2lib Spend some time working with the very finest frameworks in the java or C# world, like Spring (springframework.org), and then as2lib will make a lot more sense. OK, to be fair, Aral wrote his post in 2004, when as2lib was not mature, and few people really got Aspect Oriented programming, IoC containers etc. Simon says "those who like it can use it". The sad fact is that in the Flash world it's really more about "those who get it WILL love it", but few do. The Actionscript culture is dominated by script kiddies, and that's ok for most projects. It's a real shame that as2lib has died. I'll say it again, it's BY FAR the best project I have seen in the Actionscript world. Simon his crew are in a league of their own... I have worked extensively with both AS3 and AS2 and every framework I could get my hands on. as2lib is the best tool I’ve seen so far… by far. But my judgement is perhaps clouded by the fact that my main has been C++, Java, Ruby etc, not Flash until recently.

So with all due respect, it seems that Aral’s take on as2lib represents a misunderstanding of the core problems as2lib

Spend some time working with the very finest frameworks in the java or C# world, like Spring (springframework.org), and then as2lib will make a lot more sense.

OK, to be fair, Aral wrote his post in 2004, when as2lib was not mature, and few people really got Aspect Oriented programming, IoC containers etc.

Simon says “those who like it can use it”. The sad fact is that in the Flash world it’s really more about “those who get it WILL love it”, but few do. The Actionscript culture is dominated by script kiddies, and that’s ok for most projects.

It’s a real shame that as2lib has died. I’ll say it again, it’s BY FAR the best project I have seen in the Actionscript world. Simon his crew are in a league of their own…

]]> By: Brian Busche http://aralbalkan.com/58/comment-page-1#comment-1378 Brian Busche Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:35:12 +0000 #comment-1378 I would be interested in hearing an updated critique from Aral. Now that the project has matured a bit, is it better? With the advent of AS3, is this project even relevant? My hope is that this is still a viable AS2 framework for those of us who plan to work in Flash 8 for another couple of years. I would be interested in hearing an updated critique from Aral. Now that the project has matured a bit, is it better? With the advent of AS3, is this project even relevant?

My hope is that this is still a viable AS2 framework for those of us who plan to work in Flash 8 for another couple of years.

]]> By: Simon Wacker http://aralbalkan.com/58/comment-page-1#comment-28 Simon Wacker Fri, 25 Jun 2004 22:23:49 +0000 #comment-28 Hi Aral,<br /> it wasn't our intention to rebuild classes from Java but to offer valuable functionalities Java maybe too offers. <br /> I just find it more readable to iterate over a Stack or other data holders using an Iterator than a for..in loop or something similar. If you'd for example build a Stack and wanted to be able to iterate over it using the for..in loop you had to expose much of the inner structure and thus reducing flexibility.<br /> We also wanted to attract as much programmers as possible. That means that a broad spectrum of funtionalities must/should be supplied including the functionality to iterate over data holders using an Interator.<br /> The one's who like it can use it and the others don't have to care about it.<br /> <br /> Cheers Simon Hi Aral,
it wasn’t our intention to rebuild classes from Java but to offer valuable functionalities Java maybe too offers.
I just find it more readable to iterate over a Stack or other data holders using an Iterator than a for..in loop or something similar. If you’d for example build a Stack and wanted to be able to iterate over it using the for..in loop you had to expose much of the inner structure and thus reducing flexibility.
We also wanted to attract as much programmers as possible. That means that a broad spectrum of funtionalities must/should be supplied including the functionality to iterate over data holders using an Interator.
The one’s who like it can use it and the others don’t have to care about it.

Cheers Simon

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