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	<title>Comments on: The importance of manual override (or Google&#8217;s country autodetection is broken!)</title>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1557/comment-page-1#comment-257440</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Italy, the part where they speak German,  I am British and speak some German and no Italian....

so far get sent to the Italian version of: google, yahoo, wikipedia, chrome &quot;google address bar search&quot;, hotmail... sure there are more waiting...

not sure it&#039;s a big brother thing, just bad software design, like everybody who is IN a country is FROM that country...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Italy, the part where they speak German,  I am British and speak some German and no Italian&#8230;.</p>
<p>so far get sent to the Italian version of: google, yahoo, wikipedia, chrome &#8220;google address bar search&#8221;, hotmail&#8230; sure there are more waiting&#8230;</p>
<p>not sure it&#8217;s a big brother thing, just bad software design, like everybody who is IN a country is FROM that country&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: google bites</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1557/comment-page-1#comment-256322</link>
		<dc:creator>google bites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t we all just be honest with ourselves and admit it????

Google is exactly the &#039;BIG BROTHER&#039; (in the making) that we all feared and were warned against in the first Apple computer&#039;s BIG BROTHER ads.

This &quot;geo-location&quot; BS (it&#039;s not even a subtle hint...it&#039;s a &quot;in your face&quot;, &quot;tough sh*t! What can you do anyway?&quot; complete disregard for right of privacy) cannot be anymore clearer that Google is exactly BIG BROTHER in the making!

And the stupidity of it...It&#039;s amazing. I mean...didn&#039;t it occur to anyone working at Google that there are countless internet users around the world that whose preferred language of internet us is not the one spoken locally? They are called expatriates or people of foreign origins whose number since globalization or even before which have now exploded to the point that if disregarded by any technological innovation, it clearly demonstrates the team or even the company of such innovation is made up of morons who are not sophisticated enough to incorporate this fact-of-reality into their design, and thus their design should be recognized as &quot;obsoleted the minute it was introduced&quot;, i.e an inferior design, or &quot;the malevolent act of introducing a design clearly inferior and insufficient before it was made sufficient and caught-up with the times&quot;.

Conclusion: Google is THE BIG BROTHER in the making, and it&#039;s a very poor and outright shamelessly pathetic and humiliating attempt at that.  It should be deemed the shame of human technology to see such disregard for &quot;high standard&quot;, and does not bode well for the wrongs that future technological &quot;advancements&quot; will bring to humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t we all just be honest with ourselves and admit it????</p>
<p>Google is exactly the &#8216;BIG BROTHER&#8217; (in the making) that we all feared and were warned against in the first Apple computer&#8217;s BIG BROTHER ads.</p>
<p>This &#8220;geo-location&#8221; BS (it&#8217;s not even a subtle hint&#8230;it&#8217;s a &#8220;in your face&#8221;, &#8220;tough sh*t! What can you do anyway?&#8221; complete disregard for right of privacy) cannot be anymore clearer that Google is exactly BIG BROTHER in the making!</p>
<p>And the stupidity of it&#8230;It&#8217;s amazing. I mean&#8230;didn&#8217;t it occur to anyone working at Google that there are countless internet users around the world that whose preferred language of internet us is not the one spoken locally? They are called expatriates or people of foreign origins whose number since globalization or even before which have now exploded to the point that if disregarded by any technological innovation, it clearly demonstrates the team or even the company of such innovation is made up of morons who are not sophisticated enough to incorporate this fact-of-reality into their design, and thus their design should be recognized as &#8220;obsoleted the minute it was introduced&#8221;, i.e an inferior design, or &#8220;the malevolent act of introducing a design clearly inferior and insufficient before it was made sufficient and caught-up with the times&#8221;.</p>
<p>Conclusion: Google is THE BIG BROTHER in the making, and it&#8217;s a very poor and outright shamelessly pathetic and humiliating attempt at that.  It should be deemed the shame of human technology to see such disregard for &#8220;high standard&#8221;, and does not bode well for the wrongs that future technological &#8220;advancements&#8221; will bring to humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Buck Wild</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1557/comment-page-1#comment-256095</link>
		<dc:creator>Buck Wild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 16:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thousands of Western expats in Thailand are now getting forced to see the Google Search Thai version with many entries in unreadable Thai language.

The only way out is to connect to proper Google.com results over a proxy server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thousands of Western expats in Thailand are now getting forced to see the Google Search Thai version with many entries in unreadable Thai language.</p>
<p>The only way out is to connect to proper Google.com results over a proxy server.</p>
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		<title>By: How to Get Six Pack Fast</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1557/comment-page-1#comment-245865</link>
		<dc:creator>How to Get Six Pack Fast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The style of writing is very familiar  . Did you write guest posts for other bloggers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The style of writing is very familiar  . Did you write guest posts for other bloggers?</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1557/comment-page-1#comment-205861</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a similar issue when I bring my laptop from the US to Paris. Even when *logged in* my UI and results in Google are in French (Google.com forwarded to Google.fr), and i&#039;m forced to fumble around in a foreign language prefs screen to restore.

Even worse, my search behavior feels totally different searching &quot;English pages&quot; on Google.fr vs just plain search via Google.com. Lots of French words in the top ten pages, and the results are much less useful to me.

This seems like a pretty easy issue to avoid: 1) provide a manual override as suggested above and 2) if a user is logged in for God&#039;s sake don&#039;t switch the UI and language out from under them. Pretty simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a similar issue when I bring my laptop from the US to Paris. Even when *logged in* my UI and results in Google are in French (Google.com forwarded to Google.fr), and i&#8217;m forced to fumble around in a foreign language prefs screen to restore.</p>
<p>Even worse, my search behavior feels totally different searching &#8220;English pages&#8221; on Google.fr vs just plain search via Google.com. Lots of French words in the top ten pages, and the results are much less useful to me.</p>
<p>This seems like a pretty easy issue to avoid: 1) provide a manual override as suggested above and 2) if a user is logged in for God&#8217;s sake don&#8217;t switch the UI and language out from under them. Pretty simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Cottrell</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1557/comment-page-1#comment-193198</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Cottrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 10:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had this problem too, but only when connected to a T-Mobile WiFi Hotspot in Starbucks. Strange. 

Agree that manual override is essential. Only Google would put the knowledge of a computer above the knowledge of a human!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had this problem too, but only when connected to a T-Mobile WiFi Hotspot in Starbucks. Strange. </p>
<p>Agree that manual override is essential. Only Google would put the knowledge of a computer above the knowledge of a human!</p>
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		<title>By: Ncu</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1557/comment-page-1#comment-193157</link>
		<dc:creator>Ncu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be for legal reasons. just like the Singularity conference was renamed to HEAD doe to legal concerns.

Also I was always able to search on google.fr, google.de, google.co.uk , etc.. without being redirected.

In addition in all the Google services I can choose the language I want to see the interface in, so.. I can browse anytime google.es in Chineese!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be for legal reasons. just like the Singularity conference was renamed to HEAD doe to legal concerns.</p>
<p>Also I was always able to search on google.fr, google.de, google.co.uk , etc.. without being redirected.</p>
<p>In addition in all the Google services I can choose the language I want to see the interface in, so.. I can browse anytime google.es in Chineese!</p>
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		<title>By: Aral</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1557/comment-page-1#comment-193146</link>
		<dc:creator>Aral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rob,

Maybe that screenshot wasn&#039;t the best example (as you point out, they may be legally oblidged to filter by IP address when it comes to using the gmail name), however, the same thing holds true for all Google services. The home page appears in German, as do all the Google apps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rob,</p>
<p>Maybe that screenshot wasn&#8217;t the best example (as you point out, they may be legally oblidged to filter by IP address when it comes to using the gmail name), however, the same thing holds true for all Google services. The home page appears in German, as do all the Google apps.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1557/comment-page-1#comment-193124</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expect they are legally obliged to NOT provide gmail to anyone from a German IP address, rather than &quot;in Germany&quot;, otherwise they would have no way to be sure. Really you should be having a go at T-Mobile.

Away from issues that have legal considerations I agree! When I go to France on holiday I don&#039;t want to second guess Google... I mean not everyone in France or even England speak the native language!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect they are legally obliged to NOT provide gmail to anyone from a German IP address, rather than &#8220;in Germany&#8221;, otherwise they would have no way to be sure. Really you should be having a go at T-Mobile.</p>
<p>Away from issues that have legal considerations I agree! When I go to France on holiday I don&#8217;t want to second guess Google&#8230; I mean not everyone in France or even England speak the native language!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Gilles Vandenoostende</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1557/comment-page-1#comment-193123</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Vandenoostende</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly! I&#039;ve got the same problem with the Facebook application on my ipod touch. Being from Belgium, it suddenly decided to switch the entire app over to a french language version - unaware of the fact that Belgium has a rather large dutch-speaking population, or of the fact that I actually prefer english!

I&#039;ve looked everywhere, and there is no button or option anywhere to manually override the language settings.

I&#039;m all for localisation, but make it user controlled! Sometimes we prefer to read a site in the language in which it was originally written, rather than in a (sometimes) sloppily or inaccurately translated version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly! I&#8217;ve got the same problem with the Facebook application on my ipod touch. Being from Belgium, it suddenly decided to switch the entire app over to a french language version &#8211; unaware of the fact that Belgium has a rather large dutch-speaking population, or of the fact that I actually prefer english!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve looked everywhere, and there is no button or option anywhere to manually override the language settings.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for localisation, but make it user controlled! Sometimes we prefer to read a site in the language in which it was originally written, rather than in a (sometimes) sloppily or inaccurately translated version.</p>
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