Comments on: <head>s up: Singularity Web Conference becomes <head> http://aralbalkan.com/1469 Passionate geekisms. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:32:17 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Aral http://aralbalkan.com/1469/comment-page-1#comment-184215 Aral Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:48:08 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1469#comment-184215 Hi David, Thanks for taking the time to test it out and report back :) I'll look into why it's not displaying in IE8. For the time being, it may be easiest to go with the http-equiv header as you suggest! Hi David,

Thanks for taking the time to test it out and report back :) I’ll look into why it’s not displaying in IE8. For the time being, it may be easiest to go with the http-equiv header as you suggest!

]]> By: David Arno http://aralbalkan.com/1469/comment-page-1#comment-183508 David Arno Tue, 09 Sep 2008 06:00:16 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1469#comment-183508 I've checked it against IE 7 and IE 8 beta 2. It now works in IE 7 (though as you say, due to IE being a dog's dinner of a browser, it doesn't look as good as it does in FireFox or Chrome). Sadly it is now broken in IE 8 beta 2 though. Of course, in theory, that is easily fixed with the near-infamous <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=7" /> tag (which needs to appear straight after the <head> tag otherwise it won't work apparently). I’ve checked it against IE 7 and IE 8 beta 2. It now works in IE 7 (though as you say, due to IE being a dog’s dinner of a browser, it doesn’t look as good as it does in FireFox or Chrome). Sadly it is now broken in IE 8 beta 2 though. Of course, in theory, that is easily fixed with the near-infamous <meta http-equiv=”X-UA-Compatible” content=”IE=7″ /> tag (which needs to appear straight after the <head> tag otherwise it won’t work apparently).

]]> By: Aral http://aralbalkan.com/1469/comment-page-1#comment-183273 Aral Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:43:02 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1469#comment-183273 @David Arno: Please check the site again in IE, it should work. It appears that IE does not like a combination of floats and CSS expressions. It is quite alarming that you can crash a browser with CSS alone but, alas, this is IE. I've implemented fixes which mean that the content should at least be accessible under IE. Since IE does not support fixed positioning in CSS, you will not get the same experience (that's impossible to implement). I will see what other improvements we can make to the IE version in the coming days. @David Arno: Please check the site again in IE, it should work.

It appears that IE does not like a combination of floats and CSS expressions. It is quite alarming that you can crash a browser with CSS alone but, alas, this is IE.

I’ve implemented fixes which mean that the content should at least be accessible under IE. Since IE does not support fixed positioning in CSS, you will not get the same experience (that’s impossible to implement). I will see what other improvements we can make to the IE version in the coming days.

]]> By: Aral http://aralbalkan.com/1469/comment-page-1#comment-183063 Aral Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:01:38 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1469#comment-183063 Hi David, Sorry to hear that you don't like the new name. Thankfully, the overwhelming response we've had to the name has been very positive. I'll look into the IE issue. It was a two-day redesign and it's possible that there may be issues under IE. In the meanwhile, a standards-compliant browser like Firefox or Safari should work fine. We'll look into the issue and implement the necessary hacks for it to work on non-standards compliant browsers as soon as possible. While you are right that IE enjoys a very large share of the _consumer_ market, the statistics for _web developers_, who are our target audience is very different. The statistics for the Singularity/<head> web site, for example are entirely opposite with Firefox and Safari making up 80% (actual 79.40% according to Google Analytics) of the browsers and all versions of IE accounting for under 15% (actual 14.59%). So, in our case, my priority is getting the site working with 80% of browsers in our target audience and then tackling the rest. Finally, remember, web developers don't let friends use IE ;) Hi David,

Sorry to hear that you don’t like the new name. Thankfully, the overwhelming response we’ve had to the name has been very positive.

I’ll look into the IE issue. It was a two-day redesign and it’s possible that there may be issues under IE.

In the meanwhile, a standards-compliant browser like Firefox or Safari should work fine.

We’ll look into the issue and implement the necessary hacks for it to work on non-standards compliant browsers as soon as possible.

While you are right that IE enjoys a very large share of the _consumer_ market, the statistics for _web developers_, who are our target audience is very different. The statistics for the Singularity/<head> web site, for example are entirely opposite with Firefox and Safari making up 80% (actual 79.40% according to Google Analytics) of the browsers and all versions of IE accounting for under 15% (actual 14.59%). So, in our case, my priority is getting the site working with 80% of browsers in our target audience and then tackling the rest.

Finally, remember, web developers don’t let friends use IE ;)

]]> By: David Arno http://aralbalkan.com/1469/comment-page-1#comment-182446 David Arno Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:42:36 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1469#comment-182446 I think the new name is truly awful. I'm at a loss to understand what led Aral and co to think it a good choice of name. Despite that, I suggested the boss take a look at the site to see if he thought it worth buying tickets. He viewed the site with IE 7. The site crashed IE 7. He was less than impressed and is now reluctant to buy tickets. I can't say I blame him. Come on Aral, what are you playing at? Surely you tested your web site using IE, didn't you? You may not like it, and its incompatibility with standards and the other browsers is annoying, but it's still used by 80+% of the web audience. I think the new name is truly awful. I’m at a loss to understand what led Aral and co to think it a good choice of name.

Despite that, I suggested the boss take a look at the site to see if he thought it worth buying tickets. He viewed the site with IE 7. The site crashed IE 7. He was less than impressed and is now reluctant to buy tickets. I can’t say I blame him.

Come on Aral, what are you playing at? Surely you tested your web site using IE, didn’t you? You may not like it, and its incompatibility with standards and the other browsers is annoying, but it’s still used by 80+% of the web audience.

]]> By: Aral http://aralbalkan.com/1469/comment-page-1#comment-182345 Aral Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:41:17 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1469#comment-182345 @Kevo: T-shirts are on the to-do list :) @Kevo: T-shirts are on the to-do list :)

]]> By: Kevo http://aralbalkan.com/1469/comment-page-1#comment-182263 Kevo Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:31:26 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1469#comment-182263 Are you going to make t-shirts? I want a <head> t-shirt. Are you going to make t-shirts? I want a <head> t-shirt.

]]> By: Aral http://aralbalkan.com/1469/comment-page-1#comment-182072 Aral Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:48:30 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1469#comment-182072 Hey guys, thanks so much for your words of support and encouragement. @Ronny: Yep, it's definitely going getting busier and busier (and it was crazy busy to start out with!) :) @Jim: Donno, seems like HTML 4 is kicking XHTML's butt -- not that I want to get into that debate :) @Illias: LOL! :) Remember it's ampersand lt semi-colon head ampersand gt semi-colon -- the name definitely poses some unique challenges but I love it :) @FlashBookmarks, @Iain: We had an over quota issue after making the new design live (see my next blog post). It also coincided with a maintenance on Google so I don't know what has caused it. The site is back up now, Google's engineers are keeping an eye on things, and we're working together to get to the bottom of it. <head> is one of the first commercial applications on Google App Engine and GAE is still very young. It's to be expected that we run into technical issues. I'm happy that we're working on fixing them. That said, the quota system as it stands is broken and needs to be fixed at a much more fundamental level. @Michiel van der Ros: Nope, they don't do conferences and we don't do ski-ware so it's all good. Re: SEO, I'm happy the head conference comes up #1 :) @Lee McColl Sylvester: I really didn't want any trouble. It was two days of hard work to redesign the site but (a) I love the new name, (b) I love the new design and it just _feels_ better. I wanted to change the name next year anyway -- this just really moved things up. Going to keep this energy up for the next two months to make sure that we deliver a great new conference. @Ben Darlow, Firdosh Tangri: Thanks, guys -- so happy with all the positive comments on the name change and the new design :) Hey guys, thanks so much for your words of support and encouragement.

@Ronny: Yep, it’s definitely going getting busier and busier (and it was crazy busy to start out with!) :)

@Jim: Donno, seems like HTML 4 is kicking XHTML’s butt — not that I want to get into that debate :)

@Illias: LOL! :) Remember it’s ampersand lt semi-colon head ampersand gt semi-colon — the name definitely poses some unique challenges but I love it :)

@FlashBookmarks, @Iain: We had an over quota issue after making the new design live (see my next blog post). It also coincided with a maintenance on Google so I don’t know what has caused it. The site is back up now, Google’s engineers are keeping an eye on things, and we’re working together to get to the bottom of it.

<head> is one of the first commercial applications on Google App Engine and GAE is still very young. It’s to be expected that we run into technical issues. I’m happy that we’re working on fixing them. That said, the quota system as it stands is broken and needs to be fixed at a much more fundamental level.

@Michiel van der Ros: Nope, they don’t do conferences and we don’t do ski-ware so it’s all good. Re: SEO, I’m happy the head conference comes up #1 :)

@Lee McColl Sylvester: I really didn’t want any trouble. It was two days of hard work to redesign the site but (a) I love the new name, (b) I love the new design and it just _feels_ better.

I wanted to change the name next year anyway — this just really moved things up. Going to keep this energy up for the next two months to make sure that we deliver a great new conference.

@Ben Darlow, Firdosh Tangri: Thanks, guys — so happy with all the positive comments on the name change and the new design :)

]]> By: Michiel van der Ros http://aralbalkan.com/1469/comment-page-1#comment-182036 Michiel van der Ros Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:49:46 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1469#comment-182036 "head" is also not very search engine friendly, though when adding the word "conference" it ranks #1. Number two however is "HEAD", a 10th edition conference by the High Energy Astrophysics Division... But I suppose you realized that before you changed the name? “head” is also not very search engine friendly, though when adding the word “conference” it ranks #1.
Number two however is “HEAD”, a 10th edition conference by the High Energy Astrophysics Division… But I suppose you realized that before you changed the name?

]]> By: firdosh tangri http://aralbalkan.com/1469/comment-page-1#comment-182022 firdosh tangri Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:33:33 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1469#comment-182022 sounds gooooddd !!! cheers Firdosh sounds gooooddd !!!

cheers
Firdosh

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