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	<description>Passionate geekisms.</description>
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		<title>By: Nutella</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306/comment-page-1#comment-137974</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if i am the only one to feel kinda betrayed by Google. Okay, it is no secret that they employ python excessively, but what i feel betrayed for is that, they now enhance pythons spread by motivating as a requisite for using g app eng and what i fear is more people will be switching to Python! :) 

Though not a bad thing in total, with the help of its smoothest learning curve ever, i fear the developer-o-sphere will be swamped with more non-zealot pythonees.

i feel like &quot;our&quot; -kinda- &quot;secret&quot; brotherhood will be spoiled of *pop*ularity..

ah,this emotional involvement to non-human things :)
am i the only one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if i am the only one to feel kinda betrayed by Google. Okay, it is no secret that they employ python excessively, but what i feel betrayed for is that, they now enhance pythons spread by motivating as a requisite for using g app eng and what i fear is more people will be switching to Python! :) </p>
<p>Though not a bad thing in total, with the help of its smoothest learning curve ever, i fear the developer-o-sphere will be swamped with more non-zealot pythonees.</p>
<p>i feel like &#8220;our&#8221; -kinda- &#8220;secret&#8221; brotherhood will be spoiled of *pop*ularity..</p>
<p>ah,this emotional involvement to non-human things :)<br />
am i the only one?</p>
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		<title>By: sesli chat sohbet</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306/comment-page-1#comment-137769</link>
		<dc:creator>sesli chat sohbet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 05:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm very intreseting thoughts&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seslichatciler.com&quot; title=&quot;sesli chat sesli sohbet&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sesli chat sesli sohbet&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm very intreseting thoughts<a href="http://www.seslichatciler.com" title="sesli chat sesli sohbet" rel="nofollow">sesli chat sesli sohbet</a></p>
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		<title>By: friarminor</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306/comment-page-1#comment-136130</link>
		<dc:creator>friarminor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure has got the clock ticking on us &#039;small fries&#039; too, Aral.  Have a feeling that after Python, Ruby&#039;s next and we&#039;re barely making our presence felt. Talk about head in the clouds...

Best.
alain
www.morphexchange.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure has got the clock ticking on us &#8217;small fries&#8217; too, Aral.  Have a feeling that after Python, Ruby&#8217;s next and we&#8217;re barely making our presence felt. Talk about head in the clouds&#8230;</p>
<p>Best.<br />
alain<br />
<a href="http://www.morphexchange.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.morphexchange.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Stone</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306/comment-page-1#comment-135951</link>
		<dc:creator>David Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thoughts in _print_ ;-)

http://builtbydave.co.uk/2008/04/13/google-application-engine-vs-facebook-f8/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thoughts in _print_ ;-)</p>
<p><a href="http://builtbydave.co.uk/2008/04/13/google-application-engine-vs-facebook-f8/" rel="nofollow">http://builtbydave.co.uk/2008/04/13/google-application-engine-vs-facebook-f8/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Feisley</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306/comment-page-1#comment-135451</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Feisley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Aral,

Thijs said I should touch base with you as I have a few App Engine instances available if you would like one to develop on. Shoot me an email or I will be on the PyAMF IRC server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Aral,</p>
<p>Thijs said I should touch base with you as I have a few App Engine instances available if you would like one to develop on. Shoot me an email or I will be on the PyAMF IRC server.</p>
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		<title>By: Thijs</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306/comment-page-1#comment-135387</link>
		<dc:creator>Thijs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aral, great to see you&#039;re trying out our PyAMF library with Google&#039;s App Engine. We might be able to get you access to Google App Engine, please email me if youre interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aral, great to see you&#8217;re trying out our PyAMF library with Google&#8217;s App Engine. We might be able to get you access to Google App Engine, please email me if youre interested.</p>
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		<title>By: David Arno</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306/comment-page-1#comment-135373</link>
		<dc:creator>David Arno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently they picked Python as the first language as Google developers use Python a lot in-house (it is one of the three &quot;official&quot; languages within Google; the other two being C++ and Java). Guess it makes sense to support the language you know best from the start as it reduces risks during the development process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently they picked Python as the first language as Google developers use Python a lot in-house (it is one of the three &#8220;official&#8221; languages within Google; the other two being C++ and Java). Guess it makes sense to support the language you know best from the start as it reduces risks during the development process.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee McColl Sylvester</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306/comment-page-1#comment-135367</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee McColl Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, having started to watch the video&#039;s, they point out that Python is currently the first supported language. Ergo, more will be supported later.

@Borek : A good developer will always look into ways in which the Google SDK can be abstracted from the main application code. I&#039;m sure Google has thought about this, and others will develop frameworks that will support this level of abstraction. I started thinking of this as soon as I took a look at the SDK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, having started to watch the video&#8217;s, they point out that Python is currently the first supported language. Ergo, more will be supported later.</p>
<p>@Borek : A good developer will always look into ways in which the Google SDK can be abstracted from the main application code. I&#8217;m sure Google has thought about this, and others will develop frameworks that will support this level of abstraction. I started thinking of this as soon as I took a look at the SDK.</p>
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		<title>By: Borek</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306/comment-page-1#comment-135363</link>
		<dc:creator>Borek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a performance point of view, it is great to be able to run your app on Google&#039;s infrastructure and I can see why is this so exciting. On the other hand, when it comes to developer perspective I don&#039;t see why I should be excited that instead of some kick-ass hosting built on wide-spread technologies like LAMP where I could run thousands of already developed applications, I need to use Python and some new APIs (I don&#039;t say they are bad but still, Google is forcing me to learn yet another API).

When I try to think of one good reason why Google introduced such a complicated and dare I say developer-hostile model, the only reason I can see is vendor lock-in. Or do I miss something?

Borek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a performance point of view, it is great to be able to run your app on Google&#8217;s infrastructure and I can see why is this so exciting. On the other hand, when it comes to developer perspective I don&#8217;t see why I should be excited that instead of some kick-ass hosting built on wide-spread technologies like LAMP where I could run thousands of already developed applications, I need to use Python and some new APIs (I don&#8217;t say they are bad but still, Google is forcing me to learn yet another API).</p>
<p>When I try to think of one good reason why Google introduced such a complicated and dare I say developer-hostile model, the only reason I can see is vendor lock-in. Or do I miss something?</p>
<p>Borek</p>
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		<title>By: Lee McColl Sylvester</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306/comment-page-1#comment-135356</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee McColl Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]Every Google App Engine application can use up to 500MB of persistent storage and enough bandwidth and CPU for 5 million monthly page views.[/quote]

This is awesome. What with Android and now this, it seems like Google are hitting the development communities hard with amazing goodies. This is worth *any* developers attention.

My only gripe is that they opted to use Python. Okay, so some people will like this move, but I&#039;ve never much liked the Python language. Why not PHP, Lua or some other popular language? (and no, not Ruby either)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]Every Google App Engine application can use up to 500MB of persistent storage and enough bandwidth and CPU for 5 million monthly page views.[/quote]</p>
<p>This is awesome. What with Android and now this, it seems like Google are hitting the development communities hard with amazing goodies. This is worth *any* developers attention.</p>
<p>My only gripe is that they opted to use Python. Okay, so some people will like this move, but I&#8217;ve never much liked the Python language. Why not PHP, Lua or some other popular language? (and no, not Ruby either)</p>
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