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	<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nutella</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306#comment-137974</link>
		<dc:creator>Nutella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if i am the only one to feel kinda betrayed by Google. Okay, it is no secret that they employ python excessively, but what i feel betrayed for is that, they now enhance pythons spread by motivating as a requisite for using g app eng and what i fear is more people will be switching to Python! :) 

Though not a bad thing in total, with the help of its smoothest learning curve ever, i fear the developer-o-sphere will be swamped with more non-zealot pythonees.

i feel like "our" -kinda- "secret" brotherhood will be spoiled of *pop*ularity..

ah,this emotional involvement to non-human things :)
am i the only one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if i am the only one to feel kinda betrayed by Google. Okay, it is no secret that they employ python excessively, but what i feel betrayed for is that, they now enhance pythons spread by motivating as a requisite for using g app eng and what i fear is more people will be switching to Python! <img src='http://aralbalkan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Though not a bad thing in total, with the help of its smoothest learning curve ever, i fear the developer-o-sphere will be swamped with more non-zealot pythonees.</p>
<p>i feel like &#8220;our&#8221; -kinda- &#8220;secret&#8221; brotherhood will be spoiled of *pop*ularity..</p>
<p>ah,this emotional involvement to non-human things <img src='http://aralbalkan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
am i the only one?</p>
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		<title>By: sesli chat sohbet</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306#comment-137769</link>
		<dc:creator>sesli chat sohbet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 05:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm very intreseting thoughts&lt;a href="http://www.seslichatciler.com" title="sesli chat sesli sohbet" rel="nofollow"&gt;sesli chat sesli sohbet&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm very intreseting thoughts<a href="http://www.seslichatciler.com" title="sesli chat sesli sohbet" rel="nofollow">sesli chat sesli sohbet</a></p>
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		<title>By: friarminor</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306#comment-136130</link>
		<dc:creator>friarminor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure has got the clock ticking on us 'small fries' too, Aral.  Have a feeling that after Python, Ruby's next and we're barely making our presence felt. Talk about head in the clouds...

Best.
alain
www.morphexchange.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure has got the clock ticking on us &#8217;small fries&#8217; too, Aral.  Have a feeling that after Python, Ruby&#8217;s next and we&#8217;re barely making our presence felt. Talk about head in the clouds&#8230;</p>
<p>Best.<br />
alain<br />
<a href="http://www.morphexchange.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.morphexchange.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Stone</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306#comment-135951</link>
		<dc:creator>David Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My thoughts in _print_ ;-)

http://builtbydave.co.uk/2008/04/13/google-application-engine-vs-facebook-f8/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thoughts in _print_ <img src='http://aralbalkan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://builtbydave.co.uk/2008/04/13/google-application-engine-vs-facebook-f8/" rel="nofollow">http://builtbydave.co.uk/2008/04/13/google-application-engine-vs-facebook-f8/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Feisley</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306#comment-135451</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Feisley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Aral,

Thijs said I should touch base with you as I have a few App Engine instances available if you would like one to develop on. Shoot me an email or I will be on the PyAMF IRC server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Aral,</p>
<p>Thijs said I should touch base with you as I have a few App Engine instances available if you would like one to develop on. Shoot me an email or I will be on the PyAMF IRC server.</p>
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		<title>By: Thijs</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306#comment-135387</link>
		<dc:creator>Thijs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aral, great to see you're trying out our PyAMF library with Google's App Engine. We might be able to get you access to Google App Engine, please email me if youre interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aral, great to see you&#8217;re trying out our PyAMF library with Google&#8217;s App Engine. We might be able to get you access to Google App Engine, please email me if youre interested.</p>
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		<title>By: David Arno</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306#comment-135373</link>
		<dc:creator>David Arno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently they picked Python as the first language as Google developers use Python a lot in-house (it is one of the three "official" languages within Google; the other two being C++ and Java). Guess it makes sense to support the language you know best from the start as it reduces risks during the development process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently they picked Python as the first language as Google developers use Python a lot in-house (it is one of the three &#8220;official&#8221; languages within Google; the other two being C++ and Java). Guess it makes sense to support the language you know best from the start as it reduces risks during the development process.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee McColl Sylvester</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306#comment-135367</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee McColl Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, having started to watch the video's, they point out that Python is currently the first supported language. Ergo, more will be supported later.

@Borek : A good developer will always look into ways in which the Google SDK can be abstracted from the main application code. I'm sure Google has thought about this, and others will develop frameworks that will support this level of abstraction. I started thinking of this as soon as I took a look at the SDK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, having started to watch the video&#8217;s, they point out that Python is currently the first supported language. Ergo, more will be supported later.</p>
<p>@Borek : A good developer will always look into ways in which the Google SDK can be abstracted from the main application code. I&#8217;m sure Google has thought about this, and others will develop frameworks that will support this level of abstraction. I started thinking of this as soon as I took a look at the SDK.</p>
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		<title>By: Borek</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306#comment-135363</link>
		<dc:creator>Borek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a performance point of view, it is great to be able to run your app on Google's infrastructure and I can see why is this so exciting. On the other hand, when it comes to developer perspective I don't see why I should be excited that instead of some kick-ass hosting built on wide-spread technologies like LAMP where I could run thousands of already developed applications, I need to use Python and some new APIs (I don't say they are bad but still, Google is forcing me to learn yet another API).

When I try to think of one good reason why Google introduced such a complicated and dare I say developer-hostile model, the only reason I can see is vendor lock-in. Or do I miss something?

Borek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a performance point of view, it is great to be able to run your app on Google&#8217;s infrastructure and I can see why is this so exciting. On the other hand, when it comes to developer perspective I don&#8217;t see why I should be excited that instead of some kick-ass hosting built on wide-spread technologies like LAMP where I could run thousands of already developed applications, I need to use Python and some new APIs (I don&#8217;t say they are bad but still, Google is forcing me to learn yet another API).</p>
<p>When I try to think of one good reason why Google introduced such a complicated and dare I say developer-hostile model, the only reason I can see is vendor lock-in. Or do I miss something?</p>
<p>Borek</p>
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		<title>By: Lee McColl Sylvester</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1306#comment-135356</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee McColl Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]Every Google App Engine application can use up to 500MB of persistent storage and enough bandwidth and CPU for 5 million monthly page views.[/quote]

This is awesome. What with Android and now this, it seems like Google are hitting the development communities hard with amazing goodies. This is worth *any* developers attention.

My only gripe is that they opted to use Python. Okay, so some people will like this move, but I've never much liked the Python language. Why not PHP, Lua or some other popular language? (and no, not Ruby either)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]Every Google App Engine application can use up to 500MB of persistent storage and enough bandwidth and CPU for 5 million monthly page views.[/quote]</p>
<p>This is awesome. What with Android and now this, it seems like Google are hitting the development communities hard with amazing goodies. This is worth *any* developers attention.</p>
<p>My only gripe is that they opted to use Python. Okay, so some people will like this move, but I&#8217;ve never much liked the Python language. Why not PHP, Lua or some other popular language? (and no, not Ruby either)</p>
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