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	<title>Comments on: Bare-naked Flash: Dispelling myths and building bridges</title>
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		<title>By: Community</title>
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		<dc:creator>Community</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thank you very much. I like this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thank you very much. I like this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: oyunlar</title>
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		<dc:creator>oyunlar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice Aral, thnks!</description>
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		<title>By: Flash Café &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SWX and AS3</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flash Café &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SWX and AS3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Aral Balkan and Senocular for showing me the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: savvas.malamas &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Flash Player bug base open to the public!</title>
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		<dc:creator>savvas.malamas &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Flash Player bug base open to the public!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can learn more here and here and you should definitely have a look at Aral Balkan&#8217;s post here in which he talks about the Flash Platform (one of the best posts I have ever read, bravo Aral!  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can learn more here and here and you should definitely have a look at Aral Balkan&#8217;s post here in which he talks about the Flash Platform (one of the best posts I have ever read, bravo Aral!  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dispelling myths and building bridges &#124; Apni Library</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dispelling myths and building bridges &#124; Apni Library</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dispelling myths and building bridges [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Flash - Who it? What do? And why? &#124; The Markovian Parallax Denigrate</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1305/comment-page-1#comment-199850</link>
		<dc:creator>Flash - Who it? What do? And why? &#124; The Markovian Parallax Denigrate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a presentation on Flash for the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation (NRK), and taking a page out of Aral Balkans book I thought I&#8217;d do a summary and share it with whoever you crazy people are. As Arals, my [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a presentation on Flash for the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation (NRK), and taking a page out of Aral Balkans book I thought I&#8217;d do a summary and share it with whoever you crazy people are. As Arals, my [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Arkway</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1305/comment-page-1#comment-180082</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Arkway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aral, I think your right that flash could be more, but do you thing it will ever be good?It is still a non-free plug-in that, for most of the time is just used for advertising or for keeping content &quot;save&quot;. It would be nice if you could post a few non-myth example websites here, so that on can compare easily the usability you can get with flash with the other tools (JS, Air, M/Slight,tamarin). Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aral, I think your right that flash could be more, but do you thing it will ever be good?It is still a non-free plug-in that, for most of the time is just used for advertising or for keeping content &#8220;save&#8221;. It would be nice if you could post a few non-myth example websites here, so that on can compare easily the usability you can get with flash with the other tools (JS, Air, M/Slight,tamarin). Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Comden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Comden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your style on this summary. 

And I appreciate your efforts to get Flash developers on the usability bus. As responses above indicate, accessibility is really only available on the Windows platform. That&#039;s not insignificant. Also, Flash content isn&#039;t possible on some devices such as cell phones. Yes, I know newer devices cope, but *most* people don&#039;t buy a new phone every six months. And folks with disabilities don&#039;t regularly update their (often expensive) accessibility tools to versions that work with the improved Flash accessibility. Not to mention the people I see who are reluctant to update their Flash players for whatever reason.

Accessibility is not limited to screen readers for the blind. You mention that above but it bears repeating. I regularly work with screen reader users but additionally there are much larger numbers of people I meet with who are seeking full keyboard access, trying to minimize or eliminate use of the mouse for a variety of reasons apart from lack of sight. Until Flash player controls and content are inherently keyboard accessible and much more platform agnostic, I can&#039;t be convinced it&#039;s a good choice for primary presentation of content. (this goes for Ajax too, despite improvements in that arena)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your style on this summary. </p>
<p>And I appreciate your efforts to get Flash developers on the usability bus. As responses above indicate, accessibility is really only available on the Windows platform. That&#8217;s not insignificant. Also, Flash content isn&#8217;t possible on some devices such as cell phones. Yes, I know newer devices cope, but *most* people don&#8217;t buy a new phone every six months. And folks with disabilities don&#8217;t regularly update their (often expensive) accessibility tools to versions that work with the improved Flash accessibility. Not to mention the people I see who are reluctant to update their Flash players for whatever reason.</p>
<p>Accessibility is not limited to screen readers for the blind. You mention that above but it bears repeating. I regularly work with screen reader users but additionally there are much larger numbers of people I meet with who are seeking full keyboard access, trying to minimize or eliminate use of the mouse for a variety of reasons apart from lack of sight. Until Flash player controls and content are inherently keyboard accessible and much more platform agnostic, I can&#8217;t be convinced it&#8217;s a good choice for primary presentation of content. (this goes for Ajax too, despite improvements in that arena)</p>
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		<title>By: Lee McColl Sylvester</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1305/comment-page-1#comment-135337</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee McColl Sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, you raise a good point there, Alexis. Most developers who use HTML and JavaScript come from a development background, and they understand and think along the lines required to do it correctly. Flash, however, started off as a designers tool, and it has always been portrayed as something oriented towards designers (until Flex), so we end up with hash-ups of good looking websites with poorly implemented code. I know, as I started off as a designer using Flash back in 98/99, and thinking back how I coded apps then, they were atrocious. Sure, we didn&#039;t have much in the way of being able to write code freely with Flash 3 and 4, but even restricted, you can still write poor code (or were we able to switch between the code builder and free code? I forget).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, you raise a good point there, Alexis. Most developers who use HTML and JavaScript come from a development background, and they understand and think along the lines required to do it correctly. Flash, however, started off as a designers tool, and it has always been portrayed as something oriented towards designers (until Flex), so we end up with hash-ups of good looking websites with poorly implemented code. I know, as I started off as a designer using Flash back in 98/99, and thinking back how I coded apps then, they were atrocious. Sure, we didn&#8217;t have much in the way of being able to write code freely with Flash 3 and 4, but even restricted, you can still write poor code (or were we able to switch between the code builder and free code? I forget).</p>
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		<title>By: Alexis Brion</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1305/comment-page-1#comment-135327</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexis Brion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is not Flash, the problem are the designers doing crazy things with it. 

Great article and debate!

Alex</description>
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<p>Great article and debate!</p>
<p>Alex</p>
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