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	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: janice</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1241#comment-129151</link>
		<dc:creator>janice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 23:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got an unsolicited email from Spooky-o. It totally creeped me out.
Listed all my accounts on various services and my login name. It made me hate it and actually take the time to google it and found this thread.

This is my #1 vote for cringe-inducing site of the year. what a stupid idea.

All I am going to do is go to each of the services they listed and try to figure out how they got my user name AND email Then I'm going to write a nastygram if appropriate to the service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got an unsolicited email from Spooky-o. It totally creeped me out.<br />
Listed all my accounts on various services and my login name. It made me hate it and actually take the time to google it and found this thread.</p>
<p>This is my #1 vote for cringe-inducing site of the year. what a stupid idea.</p>
<p>All I am going to do is go to each of the services they listed and try to figure out how they got my user name AND email Then I&#8217;m going to write a nastygram if appropriate to the service.</p>
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		<title>By: concerned</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1241#comment-128281</link>
		<dc:creator>concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bunch of other people agree with your post and comments:

http://blog.randulo.com/

Bad viral idea, bad!

I second the wisdom given above, DO NOT EVER do this. Think about all the spam you receive. Much of it is thanks to your friends and contacts whose address books have been compromised by spammers. Unfortunately this is often a result of simple bad practice like sending 100 people including you email CC'ed instead of BCC'ed. SO anyone on the list whose PC is droned has now contributed your email to the spam db.

Web 2.0 companies should not use OPT-OUT mailings ever. It's lame, obnoxious and went out with old school of spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bunch of other people agree with your post and comments:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.randulo.com/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.randulo.com/</a></p>
<p>Bad viral idea, bad!</p>
<p>I second the wisdom given above, DO NOT EVER do this. Think about all the spam you receive. Much of it is thanks to your friends and contacts whose address books have been compromised by spammers. Unfortunately this is often a result of simple bad practice like sending 100 people including you email CC&#8217;ed instead of BCC&#8217;ed. SO anyone on the list whose PC is droned has now contributed your email to the spam db.</p>
<p>Web 2.0 companies should not use OPT-OUT mailings ever. It&#8217;s lame, obnoxious and went out with old school of spam.</p>
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		<title>By: seth</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1241#comment-128072</link>
		<dc:creator>seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Aral for this post. I've received the "courtesy" email as well, saying that someone has Spookeoed me and that I should sign up to learn more. I'll assume this is Spokeo's growth strategy. It's completely off the mark and has the opposite effect of a good viral, Word of Mouth strategy. With WoM, users sign up to a new site because it was recommended by a person of trust. With Spooky, there's no way in hell I'll sign up because someone who's obviously untrustworthy is using it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Aral for this post. I&#8217;ve received the &#8220;courtesy&#8221; email as well, saying that someone has Spookeoed me and that I should sign up to learn more. I&#8217;ll assume this is Spokeo&#8217;s growth strategy. It&#8217;s completely off the mark and has the opposite effect of a good viral, Word of Mouth strategy. With WoM, users sign up to a new site because it was recommended by a person of trust. With Spooky, there&#8217;s no way in hell I&#8217;ll sign up because someone who&#8217;s obviously untrustworthy is using it.</p>
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		<title>By: concerned</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1241#comment-128028</link>
		<dc:creator>concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this thread because I just today received a "courtesy" notice from Spokeo telling me people had looked at my profile in Digg and StumbleUpon and suggesting I join Spokeo. 
At the end, 

"This is a one-time courtesy notification about your online privacy.
If you wish to opt out of all future emails, click here." 

First of all, I don't deal with companies that spam regardless of what they do. This is opt out, aka SPAM.

Second, it is indeed spooky, unless they just made it up randomly, as in "you have just won the lottery", except that they had my username on both sites.

They recommend that if I don't want to be contacted, I should change my security settings on the sites in question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this thread because I just today received a &#8220;courtesy&#8221; notice from Spokeo telling me people had looked at my profile in Digg and StumbleUpon and suggesting I join Spokeo.<br />
At the end, </p>
<p>&#8220;This is a one-time courtesy notification about your online privacy.<br />
If you wish to opt out of all future emails, click here.&#8221; </p>
<p>First of all, I don&#8217;t deal with companies that spam regardless of what they do. This is opt out, aka SPAM.</p>
<p>Second, it is indeed spooky, unless they just made it up randomly, as in &#8220;you have just won the lottery&#8221;, except that they had my username on both sites.</p>
<p>They recommend that if I don&#8217;t want to be contacted, I should change my security settings on the sites in question.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosie Sherry</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1241#comment-127339</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosie Sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of the spamming of Quechup - not quite the same, but somewhat similar.  A simple google search on 'quechup' brings up loads of posts about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of the spamming of Quechup - not quite the same, but somewhat similar.  A simple google search on &#8216;quechup&#8217; brings up loads of posts about it.</p>
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		<title>By: clark slater</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1241#comment-127109</link>
		<dc:creator>clark slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah that is really awful. I'm not that surprised though, have you guys checked out what the 'Spokeo' service offers? Instant unfettered access to a whole pile of data about your friends that they may not be too happy sharing. 

Yes the data is technically in the public domain but without hours of dedicated search you would be unlikely to find it. In fact unless you're into stalking your friends it's probably not the kind of data you would ever see.

But thanks to Spokeo, one quick (and as Aral notes, thoroughly unsafe) login later, you have access to a ton of info about anyone who has ever gmailed you or chatted with you on GoogleTalk etc. Within 1 minute of checking out their service, I found out several things about people I know, which I have absolutely no doubt they would be uncomfortable with.

In my view the whole Spokeo thing is one of the most unethical abuses of the network I've seen in years. I predict they are going to get a snowball effect of negative exposure as the collective penny drops and I hope they call it quits before they wreak too much damage.

Like all personal spidering applications, it's stinky and it's just a really bad idea, poorly implemented and with little to no regard for any unintended effects on their 'users'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah that is really awful. I&#8217;m not that surprised though, have you guys checked out what the &#8216;Spokeo&#8217; service offers? Instant unfettered access to a whole pile of data about your friends that they may not be too happy sharing. </p>
<p>Yes the data is technically in the public domain but without hours of dedicated search you would be unlikely to find it. In fact unless you&#8217;re into stalking your friends it&#8217;s probably not the kind of data you would ever see.</p>
<p>But thanks to Spokeo, one quick (and as Aral notes, thoroughly unsafe) login later, you have access to a ton of info about anyone who has ever gmailed you or chatted with you on GoogleTalk etc. Within 1 minute of checking out their service, I found out several things about people I know, which I have absolutely no doubt they would be uncomfortable with.</p>
<p>In my view the whole Spokeo thing is one of the most unethical abuses of the network I&#8217;ve seen in years. I predict they are going to get a snowball effect of negative exposure as the collective penny drops and I hope they call it quits before they wreak too much damage.</p>
<p>Like all personal spidering applications, it&#8217;s stinky and it&#8217;s just a really bad idea, poorly implemented and with little to no regard for any unintended effects on their &#8216;users&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Aral</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1241#comment-127097</link>
		<dc:creator>Aral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harrison: I've signed up for a couple of other social networks in my time and I can't seem to recall any that ask for your web mail login details to create an account. If you can list a couple, I'll happily add them to my post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harrison: I&#8217;ve signed up for a couple of other social networks in my time and I can&#8217;t seem to recall any that ask for your web mail login details to create an account. If you can list a couple, I&#8217;ll happily add them to my post.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Annett</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1241#comment-127090</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Annett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's disgraceful! And the website doesn't even seem to offer anything more exciting than an RSS reader offers, anyway. "Spokeo tracks your friends content, so you don't have to visit their websites one by one." Sounds like data harvesting to me, and, as Jeremy says, teaching users how to be phished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s disgraceful! And the website doesn&#8217;t even seem to offer anything more exciting than an RSS reader offers, anyway. &#8220;Spokeo tracks your friends content, so you don&#8217;t have to visit their websites one by one.&#8221; Sounds like data harvesting to me, and, as Jeremy says, teaching users how to be phished.</p>
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		<title>By: Harrison</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1241#comment-127088</link>
		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right under the sign-up button, we have a prominent link pointing to the standard sign-up process that includes email verification and such.  

You don't need to give us any sensitive information in order to use any of Spokeo's functionalities.  That said, users have to understand how to deal with CSV files (which surprisingly, a lot of people still don't) in order to take full advantage of the Spokeo system.  This is why we modeled our design after any other social network out there.  Please try signing up on any of the major social networks, and you should see the same screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right under the sign-up button, we have a prominent link pointing to the standard sign-up process that includes email verification and such.  </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to give us any sensitive information in order to use any of Spokeo&#8217;s functionalities.  That said, users have to understand how to deal with CSV files (which surprisingly, a lot of people still don&#8217;t) in order to take full advantage of the Spokeo system.  This is why we modeled our design after any other social network out there.  Please try signing up on any of the major social networks, and you should see the same screen.</p>
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