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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft licenses Flash Lite for mobile phones (yay or yawn?)</title>
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		<title>By: Serena</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-256240</link>
		<dc:creator>Serena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flash would be a Yay for me. Its a frustrating to be compromised as with the mobile browser improvements suggest a complete experience.

I had thought the launch of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://ukmobilephones.com/wp/mobile-news/iphone-3g-s-revision-rather-than-revolution.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;iPhone 3GS&lt;/a&gt;and OS3 would bring us closer to mobile Flash. But I do wonder if Apple consider Flash to be a competing source of mobile applications. I think Apple will be the last to offer this as it could marginalise their not insignificant Apps revenue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flash would be a Yay for me. Its a frustrating to be compromised as with the mobile browser improvements suggest a complete experience.</p>
<p>I had thought the launch of the <a href="http://ukmobilephones.com/wp/mobile-news/iphone-3g-s-revision-rather-than-revolution.html" rel="nofollow">iPhone 3GS</a>and OS3 would bring us closer to mobile Flash. But I do wonder if Apple consider Flash to be a competing source of mobile applications. I think Apple will be the last to offer this as it could marginalise their not insignificant Apps revenue.</p>
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		<title>By: N97 ohne Vertrag</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-251152</link>
		<dc:creator>N97 ohne Vertrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 14:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!   already read it: Nokia N97 is available for Pre-Order in Spain for 450€ without contract&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: kevin meilak</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-191734</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin meilak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The N800 runs linux.......

This begs the question surely, why hasnt anyone made a linux based mobile??

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The N800 runs linux&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>This begs the question surely, why hasnt anyone made a linux based mobile??</p>
<p>;-)</p>
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		<title>By: David Arno</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-127317</link>
		<dc:creator>David Arno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan, the N800 device is a Linux based one and Flash 9 is available for Linux. Thus it would have been a relatively painless process getting Flash 9 onto it. Most phones these days are, I think, either Symbian or Windows CE based. Flash 9 for either of those platforms is nowhere to be seen, and the existence of Flash Lite suggests we may never see it either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan, the N800 device is a Linux based one and Flash 9 is available for Linux. Thus it would have been a relatively painless process getting Flash 9 onto it. Most phones these days are, I think, either Symbian or Windows CE based. Flash 9 for either of those platforms is nowhere to be seen, and the existence of Flash Lite suggests we may never see it either.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan de Vries</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-127186</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan de Vries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Next step: Flash 9 (10?) on a phone?&quot;

I&#039;m not so sure about this. Adobe has deprecated their Flash Player SDK (v7) in favour of Flash Lite. Adobe aren&#039;t leaving phone manufacturers with many options for getting FP 9/10 onto their devices. That being said, does anyone know the details of how Nokia are able to provide Flash Player 9 support on their N800 device (ARM11)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Next step: Flash 9 (10?) on a phone?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure about this. Adobe has deprecated their Flash Player SDK (v7) in favour of Flash Lite. Adobe aren&#8217;t leaving phone manufacturers with many options for getting FP 9/10 onto their devices. That being said, does anyone know the details of how Nokia are able to provide Flash Player 9 support on their N800 device (ARM11)?</p>
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		<title>By: David Arno</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-127114</link>
		<dc:creator>David Arno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tangent = your sources have somewhat misled you. There is currently no version of Silverlight for Windows mobile. Version 1 is scheduled to appear in the next three months. Version 2 used to be schedlued for release at the same time as the version for Windows &amp; Mac, but probably will be later. Silverlight 2 is Silverlight 1.1 with a different name. Silverlight 2 is still only an early developer beta and so it&#039;s no surprise that it doesn&#039;t work with some v1 stuff.

Oh and Flash most certainly hasn&#039;t maintained perfect backward compatibility. It&#039;s close, but a number of &quot;fudge factors&quot; in my code to handle subtle rendering differences between flash 7 &amp; 8 for example are evidence that &quot;perfect&quot; is too strong a claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tangent = your sources have somewhat misled you. There is currently no version of Silverlight for Windows mobile. Version 1 is scheduled to appear in the next three months. Version 2 used to be schedlued for release at the same time as the version for Windows &amp; Mac, but probably will be later. Silverlight 2 is Silverlight 1.1 with a different name. Silverlight 2 is still only an early developer beta and so it&#8217;s no surprise that it doesn&#8217;t work with some v1 stuff.</p>
<p>Oh and Flash most certainly hasn&#8217;t maintained perfect backward compatibility. It&#8217;s close, but a number of &#8220;fudge factors&#8221; in my code to handle subtle rendering differences between flash 7 &amp; 8 for example are evidence that &#8220;perfect&#8221; is too strong a claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Tangent</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-127104</link>
		<dc:creator>Tangent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, from my sources, Silverlight for mobile is running Silverlight 1.0 (not 1.1 or 2.0), and sadly, SL 2.0 is not backward compatible with SL 1.0/1.1 -- at least not yet.  If you are attempting to run Mix08 website with SL 2.0, you might not get any luck.

Flash Player, however, has maintained perfect backward compatibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, from my sources, Silverlight for mobile is running Silverlight 1.0 (not 1.1 or 2.0), and sadly, SL 2.0 is not backward compatible with SL 1.0/1.1 &#8212; at least not yet.  If you are attempting to run Mix08 website with SL 2.0, you might not get any luck.</p>
<p>Flash Player, however, has maintained perfect backward compatibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: David Arno</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-127050</link>
		<dc:creator>David Arno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft plan on having the full version of Silverlight on mobile phones, and not just windows mobile phones. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.davidarno.org/189&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Silverlight is coming to Symbian OS phones too&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft plan on having the full version of Silverlight on mobile phones, and not just windows mobile phones. <a href="http://www.davidarno.org/189" rel="nofollow">Silverlight is coming to Symbian OS phones too</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Weyert</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-127016</link>
		<dc:creator>Weyert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Currently, Apple&#039;s iPhone is even too slow to get their own animated user interface work properly without stuttering. I can understand why they don&#039;t want Flash yet on their device. Of course, a full blown Flash Player would be nice to have on mobile phones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently, Apple&#8217;s iPhone is even too slow to get their own animated user interface work properly without stuttering. I can understand why they don&#8217;t want Flash yet on their device. Of course, a full blown Flash Player would be nice to have on mobile phones.</p>
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