Comments on: Microsoft licenses Flash Lite for mobile phones (yay or yawn?) http://aralbalkan.com/1239 Changing the world through technology and oratory. Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:38:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-beta2 hourly 1 By: kevin meilak http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-191734 kevin meilak Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:55:25 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1239#comment-191734 The N800 runs linux....... This begs the question surely, why hasnt anyone made a linux based mobile?? ;-) The N800 runs linux…….

This begs the question surely, why hasnt anyone made a linux based mobile??

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]]> By: David Arno http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-127317 David Arno Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:18:52 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1239#comment-127317 Nathan, the N800 device is a Linux based one and Flash 9 is available for Linux. Thus it would have been a relatively painless process getting Flash 9 onto it. Most phones these days are, I think, either Symbian or Windows CE based. Flash 9 for either of those platforms is nowhere to be seen, and the existence of Flash Lite suggests we may never see it either. Nathan, the N800 device is a Linux based one and Flash 9 is available for Linux. Thus it would have been a relatively painless process getting Flash 9 onto it. Most phones these days are, I think, either Symbian or Windows CE based. Flash 9 for either of those platforms is nowhere to be seen, and the existence of Flash Lite suggests we may never see it either.

]]> By: Nathan de Vries http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-127186 Nathan de Vries Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:37:54 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1239#comment-127186 "Next step: Flash 9 (10?) on a phone?" I'm not so sure about this. Adobe has deprecated their Flash Player SDK (v7) in favour of Flash Lite. Adobe aren't leaving phone manufacturers with many options for getting FP 9/10 onto their devices. That being said, does anyone know the details of how Nokia are able to provide Flash Player 9 support on their N800 device (ARM11)? “Next step: Flash 9 (10?) on a phone?”

I’m not so sure about this. Adobe has deprecated their Flash Player SDK (v7) in favour of Flash Lite. Adobe aren’t leaving phone manufacturers with many options for getting FP 9/10 onto their devices. That being said, does anyone know the details of how Nokia are able to provide Flash Player 9 support on their N800 device (ARM11)?

]]> By: David Arno http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-127114 David Arno Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:46:09 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1239#comment-127114 @Tangent = your sources have somewhat misled you. There is currently no version of Silverlight for Windows mobile. Version 1 is scheduled to appear in the next three months. Version 2 used to be schedlued for release at the same time as the version for Windows & Mac, but probably will be later. Silverlight 2 is Silverlight 1.1 with a different name. Silverlight 2 is still only an early developer beta and so it's no surprise that it doesn't work with some v1 stuff. Oh and Flash most certainly hasn't maintained perfect backward compatibility. It's close, but a number of "fudge factors" in my code to handle subtle rendering differences between flash 7 & 8 for example are evidence that "perfect" is too strong a claim. @Tangent = your sources have somewhat misled you. There is currently no version of Silverlight for Windows mobile. Version 1 is scheduled to appear in the next three months. Version 2 used to be schedlued for release at the same time as the version for Windows & Mac, but probably will be later. Silverlight 2 is Silverlight 1.1 with a different name. Silverlight 2 is still only an early developer beta and so it’s no surprise that it doesn’t work with some v1 stuff.

Oh and Flash most certainly hasn’t maintained perfect backward compatibility. It’s close, but a number of “fudge factors” in my code to handle subtle rendering differences between flash 7 & 8 for example are evidence that “perfect” is too strong a claim.

]]> By: Tangent http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-127104 Tangent Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:53:20 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1239#comment-127104 Well, from my sources, Silverlight for mobile is running Silverlight 1.0 (not 1.1 or 2.0), and sadly, SL 2.0 is not backward compatible with SL 1.0/1.1 -- at least not yet. If you are attempting to run Mix08 website with SL 2.0, you might not get any luck. Flash Player, however, has maintained perfect backward compatibilities. Well, from my sources, Silverlight for mobile is running Silverlight 1.0 (not 1.1 or 2.0), and sadly, SL 2.0 is not backward compatible with SL 1.0/1.1 — at least not yet. If you are attempting to run Mix08 website with SL 2.0, you might not get any luck.

Flash Player, however, has maintained perfect backward compatibilities.

]]> By: David Arno http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-127050 David Arno Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:11:07 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1239#comment-127050 Microsoft plan on having the full version of Silverlight on mobile phones, and not just windows mobile phones. <a href="http://www.davidarno.org/189" rel="nofollow">Silverlight is coming to Symbian OS phones too</a>. Microsoft plan on having the full version of Silverlight on mobile phones, and not just windows mobile phones. Silverlight is coming to Symbian OS phones too.

]]> By: Weyert http://aralbalkan.com/1239/comment-page-1#comment-127016 Weyert Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:24:52 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1239#comment-127016 Currently, Apple's iPhone is even too slow to get their own animated user interface work properly without stuttering. I can understand why they don't want Flash yet on their device. Of course, a full blown Flash Player would be nice to have on mobile phones. Currently, Apple’s iPhone is even too slow to get their own animated user interface work properly without stuttering. I can understand why they don’t want Flash yet on their device. Of course, a full blown Flash Player would be nice to have on mobile phones.

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