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]]> By: Jen Mooney http://aralbalkan.com/1111/comment-page-1#comment-165527 Jen Mooney Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:34:17 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1111#comment-165527 I love you, Aral, for expressing exactly how I feel about Leopard! I know I'm relatively late to the game here, but I'm a dedicated Mac user, and the tech gurus at my school just recently upgraded some of us from Tiger to Leopard. Since then, I've had nothing but trouble with my much-beloved PowerBook G4. Programs crash. I've lost my ability to use Adobe Photoshop Elements, as well as access to iLife (the first can be blamed on Adobe, but the 2nd?). I've discovered that Leopard doesn't like Eudora mail alerts that use the name "Eudora" in the title, causing my mail system to crash (now fixed). I've had frequent crashes with Dreamweaver as well. How weird is this going to get? I love my computer. I can't say I'm a pro, but once these strange things started going "bump," I started checking out online chats and reference sites. When there's an entire site devoted to software incompatabilities with Leopard (see http://www.macintouch.com/leopard/compat.html), it makes you wonder. Now the tech folks want to downgrade me to Tiger. They don't know what might happen to my iTunes files (some burned, but a lot downloaded). I love my Mac. I have always defended it. But it's like I just found out my husband of 25 years has cheated on me. I am a sad chick. I love you, Aral, for expressing exactly how I feel about Leopard! I know I’m relatively late to the game here, but I’m a dedicated Mac user, and the tech gurus at my school just recently upgraded some of us from Tiger to Leopard. Since then, I’ve had nothing but trouble with my much-beloved PowerBook G4.

Programs crash. I’ve lost my ability to use Adobe Photoshop Elements, as well as access to iLife (the first can be blamed on Adobe, but the 2nd?). I’ve discovered that Leopard doesn’t like Eudora mail alerts that use the name “Eudora” in the title, causing my mail system to crash (now fixed). I’ve had frequent crashes with Dreamweaver as well. How weird is this going to get?

I love my computer. I can’t say I’m a pro, but once these strange things started going “bump,” I started checking out online chats and reference sites. When there’s an entire site devoted to software incompatabilities with Leopard (see http://www.macintouch.com/leopard/compat.html), it makes you wonder.

Now the tech folks want to downgrade me to Tiger. They don’t know what might happen to my iTunes files (some burned, but a lot downloaded).

I love my Mac. I have always defended it. But it’s like I just found out my husband of 25 years has cheated on me. I am a sad chick.

]]> By: Caterpillart http://aralbalkan.com/1111/comment-page-1#comment-130704 Caterpillart Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:17:54 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1111#comment-130704 I lost the ability to copy and paste and drag and drop. Very difficult to work without those. Mucked around with repairing File Permissions but that hung. Can someone help me ? Thanks I lost the ability to copy and paste and drag and drop. Very difficult to work without those. Mucked around with repairing File Permissions but that hung.
Can someone help me ?
Thanks

]]> By: Stuart Denton http://aralbalkan.com/1111/comment-page-1#comment-125686 Stuart Denton Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:07:01 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1111#comment-125686 I have yesterday just downgraded to Tiger from Leopard on my MacBook. I realised the only thing I liked about Leopard was Time Machine (for wireless backups to my home mac/server) and the new finder - that's it! I love the way Tiger is soooo stable, it boots from cold in under 30 seconds, the 2D dock is just far better looking, it works perfectly with airport extreme base stations (namley automounting drives attached to it) its cleaner and simplier to use. As Steve Jobs said at one point about Tiger "We created a beautiful seamless version of OS X" and "Use a computer, that just works". For backups i will use Retrospect or SuperDuper, the new finder I will live without with. Leopard IS better than XP and Vista, but its NOT better than Tiger.... Tiger is the best operating system Apple has produced to date Period. I have yesterday just downgraded to Tiger from Leopard on my MacBook. I realised the only thing I liked about Leopard was Time Machine (for wireless backups to my home mac/server) and the new finder – that’s it!

I love the way Tiger is soooo stable, it boots from cold in under 30 seconds, the 2D dock is just far better looking, it works perfectly with airport extreme base stations (namley automounting drives attached to it) its cleaner and simplier to use. As Steve Jobs said at one point about Tiger “We created a beautiful seamless version of OS X” and “Use a computer, that just works”.

For backups i will use Retrospect or SuperDuper, the new finder I will live without with.

Leopard IS better than XP and Vista, but its NOT better than Tiger….

Tiger is the best operating system Apple has produced to date Period.

]]> By: John http://aralbalkan.com/1111/comment-page-1#comment-124855 John Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:16:37 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1111#comment-124855 I'm also downgrading to Tiger from Leopard, and I wonder how many others are like me. My problems are a basic lack of stability. I'm seeing the beach ball just too much. I start Safari. I see the beach ball. I resume my Macbook from sleep. I see the beach ball. I'm using 10.5.2, so Apple should have fixed the major issues by now. My other annoyance with Leopard is the speed at which it boots. It's about twice as long as Tiger, which was really sprightly in comparison. I don't sleep my computers if I can help it but boot afresh, so this is a serious annoyance. I agree that, essentially, Leopard is just too green for serious use. Tiger has been through 11 service packs so far, with a 12th rumoured to be on the way, and is pretty damned good. The only thing I'll genuinely miss is the new Finder from Leopard. The only issue is see is that some software demands Leopard or better, which is one reason why I upgraded in the first place. But this policy seems limited to various bits and pieces of shareware right now. We've reached a strange impasse right now with operating systems, where the three main contenders -- Windows Vista, OS X Leopard and Linux -- have various quite serious flaws. The only way to avoid these flaws is to revert to previous versions, and unlike previously, the previous versions don't involve any significant loss of functionality. I’m also downgrading to Tiger from Leopard, and I wonder how many others are like me. My problems are a basic lack of stability. I’m seeing the beach ball just too much. I start Safari. I see the beach ball. I resume my Macbook from sleep. I see the beach ball. I’m using 10.5.2, so Apple should have fixed the major issues by now.

My other annoyance with Leopard is the speed at which it boots. It’s about twice as long as Tiger, which was really sprightly in comparison. I don’t sleep my computers if I can help it but boot afresh, so this is a serious annoyance.

I agree that, essentially, Leopard is just too green for serious use. Tiger has been through 11 service packs so far, with a 12th rumoured to be on the way, and is pretty damned good. The only thing I’ll genuinely miss is the new Finder from Leopard. The only issue is see is that some software demands Leopard or better, which is one reason why I upgraded in the first place. But this policy seems limited to various bits and pieces of shareware right now.

We’ve reached a strange impasse right now with operating systems, where the three main contenders — Windows Vista, OS X Leopard and Linux — have various quite serious flaws. The only way to avoid these flaws is to revert to previous versions, and unlike previously, the previous versions don’t involve any significant loss of functionality.

]]> By: Chris http://aralbalkan.com/1111/comment-page-1#comment-120762 Chris Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:00:22 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1111#comment-120762 It seems to me that most of the problems with a Leopard upgrade are because of the presence of certain 3rd party software or customizations made by the user prior to upgrading (as well as your typical early adopter issues any OS release encounters). For me, the upgrade from Tiger to Leopard went perfectly on my ibook g4. However, even with the RAM maxed out, I'm going back to Tiger simply because of the weight of Leopard. It was designed with dual core processers in mind, after all. My poor little g4 simply can't keep up and I can't put any more memory in the system. Aside from the performance, I thought Leopard was very nice. Perhaps some of the 3rd party software vendors will catch up in the coming months. Bottom line is you've got to do what's best for your own needs. If Leopard doesn't suit them, stick with Tiger. It doesn't mean Leopard's bad. It just doesn't suit your needs. It seems to me that most of the problems with a Leopard upgrade are because of the presence of certain 3rd party software or customizations made by the user prior to upgrading (as well as your typical early adopter issues any OS release encounters). For me, the upgrade from Tiger to Leopard went perfectly on my ibook g4. However, even with the RAM maxed out, I’m going back to Tiger simply because of the weight of Leopard. It was designed with dual core processers in mind, after all. My poor little g4 simply can’t keep up and I can’t put any more memory in the system. Aside from the performance, I thought Leopard was very nice. Perhaps some of the 3rd party software vendors will catch up in the coming months. Bottom line is you’ve got to do what’s best for your own needs. If Leopard doesn’t suit them, stick with Tiger. It doesn’t mean Leopard’s bad. It just doesn’t suit your needs.

]]> By: boneym http://aralbalkan.com/1111/comment-page-1#comment-110430 boneym Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:35:47 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1111#comment-110430 Hi I've had awful trouble since installing Leopard. Unfortunately Neither of my machines I "upgraded" will accept either the tiger disk or original disks to downgrade. I'm F*****D. I no longer have the right to save any documents (even one I created 5 seconds ago) I've done all root reauthorisation and allowed myself to administer but to no avail.so I've given up. I ran out and bought one of the quad cores with Tiger on it to get out of the problem and relegated my retouching machine to emails. SO this F***up created a couple of grand in extra turnover to apple. I'm an old school (since Mac SE) mac guy, but s*** like this really makes me dislike a company I used to love. Hi
I’ve had awful trouble since installing Leopard. Unfortunately Neither of my machines I “upgraded” will accept either the tiger disk or original disks to downgrade. I’m F*****D. I no longer have the right to save any documents (even one I created 5 seconds ago) I’ve done all root reauthorisation and allowed myself to administer but to no avail.so I’ve given up. I ran out and bought one of the quad cores with Tiger on it to get out of the problem and relegated my retouching machine to emails. SO this F***up created a couple of grand in extra turnover to apple. I’m an old school (since Mac SE) mac guy, but s*** like this really makes me dislike a company I used to love.

]]> By: DreamzMe http://aralbalkan.com/1111/comment-page-1#comment-104174 DreamzMe Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:28:23 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1111#comment-104174 I love MACS and everything about them. But I have been greatly disappointed by Leopard - it has actually come as a shock to me that Apple has put out an OS this unstable. All my CS3 applications crash on me on a regular basis. My colleagues on the other hand have had few or no problems! I came across this blog post researching downgrading to Tiger. I hope Apple does something real soon. I love MACS and everything about them. But I have been greatly disappointed by Leopard – it has actually come as a shock to me that Apple has put out an OS this unstable. All my CS3 applications crash on me on a regular basis. My colleagues on the other hand have had few or no problems!

I came across this blog post researching downgrading to Tiger. I hope Apple does something real soon.

]]> By: Lukey112 http://aralbalkan.com/1111/comment-page-1#comment-101766 Lukey112 Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:01:53 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1111#comment-101766 I have the latest Macbook Pro(Dec 07)(3rd Replacement) and Leopard does not even like that. Just does not dig WPA, wont get along with logic express or Pro Tools and today I discover my Optical DVD drive is faulty when I try and watch a DVD(distortions or no picture at all). I mean what an insult 3 DOA machines in a row for the $3,500AUD price tag. I have to settle for a repair over replacement this time because I cannot go another 3 weeks without a machine while waiting for a replacement. Not that getting a replacement was ever meant to be easy. So don't any of you feel bad because Leopard will not work on your older machines, because it's no better for new ones. I miss Tiger like sleep, but since my new machine is Leopard native those days are history. I have the latest Macbook Pro(Dec 07)(3rd Replacement) and Leopard does not even like that. Just does not dig WPA, wont get along with logic express or Pro Tools and today I discover my Optical DVD drive is faulty when I try and watch a DVD(distortions or no picture at all). I mean what an insult 3 DOA machines in a row for the $3,500AUD price tag. I have to settle for a repair over replacement this time because I cannot go another 3 weeks without a machine while waiting for a replacement. Not that getting a replacement was ever meant to be easy. So don’t any of you feel bad because Leopard will not work on your older machines, because it’s no better for new ones. I miss Tiger like sleep, but since my new machine is Leopard native those days are history.

]]> By: billp http://aralbalkan.com/1111/comment-page-1#comment-100827 billp Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:47:15 +0000 http://aralbalkan.com/1111#comment-100827 Here are my two big problems: 1. I cannot print from Leopard to my Epson Photo R260 through Airport Extreme. It works fine direct connect and works fine on my Tiger machines through Airport. A google shows there are many people having the problem and with other printer brands as well (Lexmark, Brother, HP, etc) apparently it's not all models but Staples gave ma an Epson R280 upgrade and that doesn't work either. 2. MS Word in my old MS Office X (with all patches applied) doesn't print at all. Even when I just do a Print Preview or print to Preview I get a blank page. The same is true printing to Acrobat 6.0 and Acrobat 8.0. There may be a fix to this but I'm out of time to explore for one. I'm going to downgrade too (thank heaven I only upgraded one of my family's five machines) and upgrade later after Apple has fixed more problems. BTW I even dragged my laptop (Powerbook G4 1.3 GHz) and printer to the Genius Bar and they confirmed my problem. I still love Apple. I've been using them since Lisa for personal use and PCs since early DOS for work. PCs have never been competitive with Macs but Apple jumped the gun with this one. Here are my two big problems:
1. I cannot print from Leopard to my Epson Photo R260 through Airport Extreme. It works fine direct connect and works fine on my Tiger machines through Airport. A google shows there are many people having the problem and with other printer brands as well (Lexmark, Brother, HP, etc) apparently it’s not all models but Staples gave ma an Epson R280 upgrade and that doesn’t work either.
2. MS Word in my old MS Office X (with all patches applied) doesn’t print at all. Even when I just do a Print Preview or print to Preview I get a blank page. The same is true printing to Acrobat 6.0 and Acrobat 8.0. There may be a fix to this but I’m out of time to explore for one.
I’m going to downgrade too (thank heaven I only upgraded one of my family’s five machines) and upgrade later after Apple has fixed more problems.
BTW I even dragged my laptop (Powerbook G4 1.3 GHz) and printer to the Genius Bar and they confirmed my problem.
I still love Apple. I’ve been using them since Lisa for personal use and PCs since early DOS for work. PCs have never been competitive with Macs but Apple jumped the gun with this one.

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