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	<title>Comments on: Ralph&#8217;s Papervision training rocked!</title>
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		<title>By: Ali Drongo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali Drongo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also interested in future Papervision events, who are the &#039;they&#039; that organised this talk?
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also interested in future Papervision events, who are the &#8216;they&#8217; that organised this talk?<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Hauwert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Hauwert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! Glad to hear you enjoyed it like that Aral! Looking forward what you combined creative and coding skills will bring us! Shame you couldn&#039;t join us later on, but we&#039;ll be sure to have another opportunity to do so ! Also I&#039;ll put the remaining code and the slides up for download to the group tomorrow, and blog on the pano ;-)

W : sorry for losing you along the way. The rather large diversity of the audience (around 50% designers / 50% developers) made this a tough cookie. Some people clearly got lost in the coding; when people are that comfortable with code, I felt it was better to convey the message what the code was doing. I learned that keeping both groups &quot;in the loop&quot; is incredibly hard and I have some ideas on how to improve that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! Glad to hear you enjoyed it like that Aral! Looking forward what you combined creative and coding skills will bring us! Shame you couldn&#8217;t join us later on, but we&#8217;ll be sure to have another opportunity to do so ! Also I&#8217;ll put the remaining code and the slides up for download to the group tomorrow, and blog on the pano ;-)</p>
<p>W : sorry for losing you along the way. The rather large diversity of the audience (around 50% designers / 50% developers) made this a tough cookie. Some people clearly got lost in the coding; when people are that comfortable with code, I felt it was better to convey the message what the code was doing. I learned that keeping both groups &#8220;in the loop&#8221; is incredibly hard and I have some ideas on how to improve that.</p>
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		<title>By: vv</title>
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		<dc:creator>vv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was quite good. Ralph didn&#039;t *literally* inject us, apologies to all those embarrassed by Aral&#039;s excitement :)

There were some excellent points, although things drifted off a little when Ralph asked that we not bother following his coding, but instead just pay attention to the general idea. Well, most of the coders actually learn and follow by doing the coding, so we did actually lose track completely four or five times, because the general idea wasn&#039;t too clear and seemed to be linked to the coding. Ah well.

But good overall and there&#039;s no one better to really take us through the new codebase and demonstrate so many things.

I shall go get the code from Ralph today and start demoing it around the office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was quite good. Ralph didn&#8217;t *literally* inject us, apologies to all those embarrassed by Aral&#8217;s excitement :)</p>
<p>There were some excellent points, although things drifted off a little when Ralph asked that we not bother following his coding, but instead just pay attention to the general idea. Well, most of the coders actually learn and follow by doing the coding, so we did actually lose track completely four or five times, because the general idea wasn&#8217;t too clear and seemed to be linked to the coding. Ah well.</p>
<p>But good overall and there&#8217;s no one better to really take us through the new codebase and demonstrate so many things.</p>
<p>I shall go get the code from Ralph today and start demoing it around the office.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Answering my own question, &quot;They ran 2 sessions in December and they also ran 2 in October, so its quite likely they&#039;ll be running more in the future :)&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Answering my own question, &#8220;They ran 2 sessions in December and they also ran 2 in October, so its quite likely they&#8217;ll be running more in the future :)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Harrison</title>
		<link>http://aralbalkan.com/1106/comment-page-1#comment-93238</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did they mention if they&#039;d be running another one anytime in the new year?

I&#039;d really like to have gone to this, but I&#039;m now in the middle of the final push on my project, and I&#039;d used all my time-off-for-training goodwill on FOTB.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;d really like to have gone to this, but I&#8217;m now in the middle of the final push on my project, and I&#8217;d used all my time-off-for-training goodwill on FOTB.</p>
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